[draft] need your help on the AI-DFSG general resolution prepration

[Jamie Bainbridge]

(1) do you know any important but missing reference materials?

Is it worth explicitly mentioning weights are also released under very
restrictive non-free licenses? The list of Apache/MIT licenses might
mislead a reader into believing all weights are licensed freely.

For example, LG's EXAONE license is strictly non-commercial and says
they own the model, and all derivative models, and even all output of
the model (i.e. all text that users generate):

https://ollama.com/library/exaone3.5
https://huggingface.co/LGAI-EXAONE/EXAONE-3.5-7.8B-Instruct/blob/main/LICENSE

Also a small correction, just after heading "# Problem 1: "Preferred
form of modification" there is a "udner" instead of "under".

Jamie

[Holger Levsen]

hi,

about https://salsa.debian.org/lumin/gr-ai-dfsg/-/blob/main/README.txt

(2) are the options clear enough for vote? Considering lots of the readers may
not be faimiliar with how AI is created. I tried to explain it, as well as
the implication if some components are missing.

this explaination text is surely useful/well ment but also makes it somewhat hard
to see where the GR text starts.

(3) is there anything unclear or ambiguous in the text for backgrounds and options?
(4) is there anything else that should be added to the text?
(5) what is the actionable outcome of this generaal resolution?
(6) is a neutral tone necessary for a proposal? I have a clear
tendency throughout the texts.

as I understand your text and the GR process, you presented two (or three) GR
options in one, which is a bit unusual, so maybe it will help to clearly to split
this in (3 files)

a.) GR background, explainations about AI
b.) GR option 1 (called "Proposal A" in your text currently.
c.) GR option 2 (called "Proposal B" in your text currently.

Your Proposal C is not needed because "further discussion" is always an option
in our GRs.

Also you don't need to be neutral, though of course you can and maybe you should
try. But my point is: anyone else can also propose GR options with a more or less
neutral tone, so you can definitly be enthusiastic about your proposal!
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cheers,
Holger

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[Jacinto Dávila]

(1) do you know any important but missing reference materials?

You may want to include references to currents cases in court, like:

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/14/nx-s1-5258952/new-york-times-openai-microsoft

Maybe not that particular one, but something to the effect. By supporting
proposal B: "Toxic Candy" is free software, I believe one would be taking
side on those disputes, against creators that believe that their work is
being used as training data and has not been dutifully honored.

Otherwise, the proposals look impeccable.

Thank you

Hi all,
I heard that people were looking for me during FOSDEM.
I spent a couple of hours and finally get something draft-ish
for the previously mentioned general resolution on the software
freedom interpolation with respect to AI software.
https://salsa.debian.org/lumin/gr-ai-dfsg
(I turned the issues on. Feel free to open issues there)
This is an early draft. Before really posting to -vote, I need your
(1) do you know any important but missing reference materials?
(2) are the options clear enough for vote? Considering lots of the readers
may
not be faimiliar with how AI is created. I tried to explain it, as well as
the implication if some components are missing.
(3) is there anything unclear or ambiguous in the text for backgrounds and
options?
(4) is there anything else that should be added to the text?
(5) what is the actionable outcome of this generaal resolution?
(6) is a neutral tone necessary for a proposal? I have a clear
tendency throughout the texts.
(7) I have not yet asked ftp-master on their opinion.
According to https://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal ,
there is a template https://www.debian.org/vote/sample_vote.template
but I don't understand this XML dialect. How to use this XML file?