How to use remove-on-upgrade to remove a configuration file?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

Hello,

I am fixing Debian bug #990154.

After some work I am able to remove the obsolete conf file using:
rm_conffile /etc/reader.conf.d/0comments 1.9.3-2~ pcscd
in debian/pcscd.maintscript

Nice.
Now I would like to use the method documented in deb-conffiles
https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/dpkg-dev/deb-conffiles.5.en.html

I would need to add in the DEBIAN/conffiles of the pcscd package the line:
remove-on-upgrade /etc/reader.conf.d/0comments

But how do I generate a .deb package with this extra line?
What is the magic dh command or file to do that?
Where is it documented?

I tried to use a file debian/pcscd.conffiles but this file is no more used with debhelper version 12
https://manpages.debian.org/buster/debhelper/dh_installdeb.1.en.html

I searched for occurrences of "remove-on-upgrade" in https://codesearch.debian.net/ but I only find references to dpkg source code.
No Debian package is using or has used "remove-on-upgrade"?

Thanks

[Niels Thykier]

Post by Ludovic Rousseau
Hello,
I am fixing Debian bug #990154.
rm_conffile /etc/reader.conf.d/0comments 1.9.3-2~ pcscd
in debian/pcscd.maintscript
Nice.
Now I would like to use the method documented in deb-conffiles
https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/dpkg-dev/deb-conffiles.5.en.html
remove-on-upgrade /etc/reader.conf.d/0comments
But how do I generate a .deb package with this extra line?
What is the magic dh command or file to do that?
Where is it documented?
I tried to use a file debian/pcscd.conffiles but this file is no more
used with debhelper version 12
https://manpages.debian.org/buster/debhelper/dh_installdeb.1.en.html
I searched for occurrences of "remove-on-upgrade" in
https://codesearch.debian.net/ but I only find references to dpkg source
code.
No Debian package is using or has used "remove-on-upgrade"?
Thanks

Hi Ludovic,

You cannot use that feature yet as it would break during upgrade. The
dpkg version in stable does not support the feature. Which is also why
there is no debhelper feature to support it yet.

Thanks,
~Niels

[Ludovic Rousseau]

Hello Niels,

Post by Niels Thykier

Post by Ludovic Rousseau
Hello,
I am fixing Debian bug #990154.
rm_conffile /etc/reader.conf.d/0comments 1.9.3-2~ pcscd
in debian/pcscd.maintscript
Nice.
Now I would like to use the method documented in deb-conffiles
https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/dpkg-dev/deb-conffiles.5.en.html
remove-on-upgrade /etc/reader.conf.d/0comments
But how do I generate a .deb package with this extra line?
What is the magic dh command or file to do that?
Where is it documented?
I tried to use a file debian/pcscd.conffiles but this file is no more
used with debhelper version 12
https://manpages.debian.org/buster/debhelper/dh_installdeb.1.en.html
I searched for occurrences of "remove-on-upgrade" in
https://codesearch.debian.net/ but I only find references to dpkg source
code.
No Debian package is using or has used "remove-on-upgrade"?
Thanks

Hi Ludovic,
You cannot use that feature yet as it would break during upgrade. The
dpkg version in stable does not support the feature. Which is also why
there is no debhelper feature to support it yet.

OK. I was searching for something that does not (yet) exist :-)

My plan was to upload the package in Bullseye +1 so after the (soon) release of Bullseye.
Bullseye will then be the new stable and will have dpkg 1.20.9. So that should work. No?

Thanks

[Niels Thykier]

Post by Ludovic Rousseau
Hello Niels,

Post by Niels Thykier

[...]

Hi Ludovic,
You cannot use that feature yet as it would break during upgrade. The
dpkg version in stable does not support the feature.  Which is also why
there is no debhelper feature to support it yet.

OK. I was searching for something that does not (yet) exist :-)
My plan was to upload the package in Bullseye +1 so after the (soon) release of Bullseye.
Bullseye will then be the new stable and will have dpkg 1.20.9. So that should work. No?
Thanks
From an upgrade/low-level tech perspective, yes, it would work.
From an "how do I use this feature" perspective, I would recommend that

you/people wait until relevant wiring has been added to debhelper.

~Niels

[Niels Thykier]

Post by Niels Thykier

Post by Ludovic Rousseau
Hello Niels,

Post by Niels Thykier

[...]

Hi Ludovic,
You cannot use that feature yet as it would break during upgrade. The
dpkg version in stable does not support the feature.  Which is also why
there is no debhelper feature to support it yet.

OK. I was searching for something that does not (yet) exist :-)
My plan was to upload the package in Bullseye +1 so after the (soon) release of Bullseye.
Bullseye will then be the new stable and will have dpkg 1.20.9. So that should work. No?
Thanks
From an upgrade/low-level tech perspective, yes, it would work.
From an "how do I use this feature" perspective, I would recommend that

you/people wait until relevant wiring has been added to debhelper.
~Niels

Hi,

I just uploaded debhelper/13.5 that adds support for the new feature via
the following methods:

* Use of "rm_conffile" in debian/<pkg>.maintscript will now be
optimized into the "remove-on-upgrade" feature in cases where I
believe I could do it safely and reliably.
- This is easiest to use for most people; you can just keep doing
what you have been doing and it will "just work(tm)".
- This method also have the advantage that we can "roll it back"
centrally if it turns out that some critical piece of
infrastructure does not support the new vales in DEBIAN/conffiles.

* debian/<pkg>.conffiles is now installed again in all compat levels
for the case you want to use the feature directly.
- This method provides the highest degree of freedom/control but you
will in general want ensure you are using debhelper (>= 13.5~) and
that is currently not available in -backports.

For bullseye, my recommendation would be to stick with "rm_conffile" in
debian/<pkg>.maintscripts.

Also note that DEBIAN/conffiles has been a list of files since
"forever". Most likely some bits of code assumed this would never
change and we will probably see the effects of that soon.

Thanks,
~Niels